
TSE:CNQ
His outlook for 2018 is that oil and gas prices are going to remain range bound. Would prefer energy infrastructure instead of this company. He wants exposure to companies that are going to benefit from pulling the stuff out of the ground. That includes transporting it, fractionation for gas, logistics. Companies underpinned by “fee for service” or “take or pay” contracts have a lot more visibility and a lot less commodity price exposure. This wouldn’t be his favourite.
CNQ-T vs. SU-T. Both are up for the year because the profits are in refining. They will both generate significant cash flow. They could buy back shares or make an acquisition. Both are good for the long term but there could be weakness during tax loss selling. SU-T gives you refining stability and CNQ-T gives you oil sands growth.
The analysts and investors love this because of the size and growth. The Horizon project has done well. The stock has continued to do well, but he worries a little that Shell is going to come out on a short-term basis. He would be more inclined to take money out of this rather than buying. The valuation is a little more expensive than it is on juniors.
Recently sold this as he trimmed oil stocks. He likes the company and its management. They are buying assets at what he thinks are cheap prices from distressed sellers. Likes the way it’s managed and the exposure they have. A well-run company, but he is a little concerned about the oil patch today. Prefers PrairieSky Royalty (PSK-T) which doesn’t have any operational risks.
Suncor (SU-T) or Canadian Natural Resources (CNQ-T)? Both companies, relative to the other stocks in the energy index, have performed pretty well. From this point on, he likes both, and is hard-pressed to tell you which one he would choose. Both have very good growth profiles. This one has made acquisitions recently. They are both very good on M&A on an opportunistic basis. Their balance sheets have been improving steadily. Because they have both held their ground so well, there are better opportunities in some of the intermediate space, in terms of capital gains.
He likes this a lot and admires its management. Probably the foremost producer in Canada without being integrated. A real benchmark for the energy industry. Superbly run, and has always maintained a good solid balance sheet. That allows them to take advantage when opportunities arise. Lately they’ve made some significant acquisitions, and he expects that will continue going forward.
He is modelling a 69% 2017 estimated payout ratio at $53 WTI, which is probably approaching 80% right now. This company has outstanding growth. They just did an acquisition. He is modelling 20% production growth and 40% cash flow per share growth over the next couple of years. The acquisition is very accretive, but for it to work you need oil prices to cooperate. You need to have $50+ oil. He would be looking for oil companies with balance sheets closer to 1X EV to cash flow.