
TSE:TECK.B
Downgraded to junk status recently. Involved with Fort Hills, which is the big cap spend they have through to 2017. Debt is not a big concern. They are in the met coal-copper space, and neither looks enticing, especially met coal. M&A is on the back burner and they want to focus on getting Fort Hills across the line and manage their debt.
This needs a recovery in commodity prices. Metallurgical coal is a key product for them. Because of the Chinese situation, that continues to be weak. Copper is a critical product for them, and he thinks it is close to its lows, but doesn’t see a big improvement until 2017. The market is particularly concerned about the money they are putting into Fort Hills. Their balance sheet is a concern and they cut the dividend. Doesn’t think there will be a catalyst for this to improve for the next 12 months.
During ‘08/’09 it went way down below $4 because people were worried about their ability to service the debt. Coal is a bit of a disaster right now. Zinc is at a 5 year low. If they had no debt it would be a great time to buy in, but that is not the case. No one knows what is going to happen to commodity prices.
Bought Fording Coal just as China and the whole global economy went through a huge swoon. Taking on that debt almost sunk the company. They got an injection of capital from the Chinese. Over time China resuscitated their economy with a huge stimulus package and coal, copper and zinc prices rose. Since then basically everything has been unwinding. Commodity companies can be extremely cyclical and fall much further than you anticipate.
This has very, very strong seasonality. It tends to bottom around the middle to the end of October, and then tends to move higher. It doesn’t work all the time. This year the stock is starting to show early signs of support. This is probably reaching a very important low in the next 2-3 weeks, and that will be the opportunity to accumulate.
This is one area that has been absolutely crushed. It looks like there could be a downside target of around $4. That doesn’t mean it is going to happen, but certainly the biggest thing that could change this is a change in the US$ which would sort of lift these up. We don’t have a supply issue as much as a pricing issue.
This has been the poster child for all those triple storm factors. Met coal pricing is at $84 a ton, a low that we haven’t seen in a long, long time. Copper is the depressed metal. They do have zinc, which is good. However, their 4th leg is oil and nobody wants to own that. However, at these prices, the stock is quite attractive. They have done a good job of maintaining the balance sheet and its flexibility. When commodity prices are trading below cost for 50% of the industry, those companies will have to shut down. This one is not shutting down.
From an operating point of view, this is best in class in Canada. What they have done since the financial crisis until now, in terms of stability, has been fantastic. However, the commodity price environment has been detrimental. The one commodity that is doing well is zinc, but not enough to really lift the company out. Under $10 you really have to look at this.
SHORT. From a valuation point it is not cheap. He thinks it has lots of room to go further down. It is exposed to the wrong stuff at the wrong time.