
TSE:TD
The banks have been very steady returners for Canadian investors. TD-T had the sales scandal and sold off. He owns no banks but if he was looking to buy one, it would be either this or RY-T. This is a buying opportunity. It is well run and pays a nice dividend. TD-T is going to be fine. You might even add to it.
Banks are still great deals relative to the market. There are sentiment issues which are tough to gauge. He would not sell right now. Dividends are great. The issue was with their retail business. They did not grow for 5 quarters in a row. He would wait a little bit. The sales issue with pressure on employees will be an overhang for some time. Around $63 it would be a buy.
This group is best helped by rising interest rates. There was an inflection point in interest rates last June, which was ultimately a 30-year low, and over the next number of years we slowly see rates go higher. Given a choice of Canada versus the US, you may be in a better spot with US banks, which are very inexpensive. He would have a look at something like J.P. Morgan (JPM-N) which had a nice pullback in the last few days, or look at one of the investment banks like Morgan Stanley (MS-N). However, you will also be fine with this bank. (See Top Picks.)
If you liked this bank before the news broke, he doesn’t think anything has changed. What was revealed in the news was not positive, but he wouldn’t be surprised to see any “for-profit” organization that didn’t have a conflict of maximizing sales versus taking care customers. The question is, what kind of policy does the company have to prevent that conflict and to resolve it. According to TD’s official statement, they do have a strong policy, they do investigate it and they do take care of it. He would look at this as a buying opportunity.
Stumbled badly last week when they were implicated in aggressive sales tactics. He wouldn’t be surprised to see this situation roll out to the other banks as well. You have to look at the different business lines the banks are in. This has had a huge capital outlay initiating their position in the US market, that can have a long time to pay back to the current shareholders in Canada. He prefers Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS-T), Royal Bank (RY-T) and Bank of Commerce (CM-T).
Bank of America (BAC-N) or Toronto Dominion (TD-T)? He thinks the dip in the stock is a bit overdone, but could persist for a while, so there is time. This bank has US exposure, but there is going to be a bit of negative headline news regarding their sales practices. Canadian banks are not cheap, trading at 2X BV, compared to US banks at about 1.5X. Prefers J.P. Morgan (JPM-N), which is a bit more tilted to the investment banking side, and would see a bit more participation in the deregulation that he feels is coming. There is room for the Cdn$ to come down further.
Banks have 2 periods of seasonal strength, and we are just into one of them now. It runs from about the middle of March through until the reporting of their fiscal 2nd quarter results, approximately the end of April. The stock has been hit in the last while, because of the controversy of bank employees being a little aggressive on marketing. That is a short-term factor. We are now into the period of seasonal strength. The recent weakness is probably an excellent buying opportunity.
This dropped $3.25-$3.50 today. There was a report claiming employees were pressured to hit sales goals that could have breached the company’s ethics. Barclays says that they don’t think there will be repercussions. Any time these types of allegations come out, it certainly freezes investors in their tracks. This bank is a fantastic franchise. They have lots of compliance and corporate governance in place. If you are a 3-5 year investor, and you get a selloff like this, it is probably an opportunity. However, he wouldn’t add a full position today, but would probably add some today and look at adding some down the road.
He feels Canadian banks are fairly valued. This one is trading at about 13X forward earnings, a notch above historical levels. It is probably trading at 1.8-1.9X Price to book. Compared to the large US banks, some of the Canadian banks are a bit expensive. Within financials, he would probably look at some of the insurers at this time, because they are more leveraged to higher interest rates.
His single largest holding. It’s been one of the best growth stories in an oligopolistic and very profitable Canadian banking sector. Banks have had a very strong run and this bank has a very strong overhang of sales practices investigation from a few weeks ago. That probably dampens the view in the very short term, but provides opportunity allowing you to accumulate on weakness.