Tesla Inc (TSLA)

It has been a tough year with cost over-runs along with having to reduce prices and therefore margins. The growth rate is slowing down. It expects to produce 1.8 million vehicles this year and could be falling behind other EV producers, There is intellectual value in their chargers as well as solar and battery technology, but most of their revenue today comes from their production of EV vehicles.

Very expensive valuation given fundamentals. However, growth in tech tree very strong. Good for long term investors if able to get it cheap.

Does not own shares in company. Believes adoption in EV's will not be as strong as anticipated. Battery length a major concern along with distribution network (not enough chargers). Waiting for share price to fall before buying. Overall, trend is towards electrification - just waiting for better share price. 

He expects the downtrend and volatility to continue. It remains grossly overvalued with failing fundamentals.

He targets $82 or -61%.  If Tesla had the same valuation as GM, Tesla shares would be $10.

Has been slumping in Q3 because of production worries and weaker production numbers. True, demand for their cars remains high. But last week's report saw a top and bottom line miss as free cash flow came up short by over $1 billion. They're cutting car prices to stay competitive. Gross margins has slipped quarter over quarter. This is not the Tesla of the last few years. Elon Musk delivered a downbeat outlook on the company and the global economy. That said, he won't count Tesla out.

They report after today's bell. The options market points to a +6% or -6% move higher. Will they be at a trough in margins? What are they doing in AI? She owns it long-term. Tesla is not just a car company.

They're a capex machine, and there's a glut of EVs in the market. They're reducing car prices, which is not good. Sales are declining in China, a key market. Also, they can't make money supplying their battery-charging network.

The fundamentals are retreating. They cut car prices, so revenues estimates are down nearly 50% for the quarter. Will margins fall below 20%? This is key. They have to deliver a strong earnings report.

Autos are mired in the UAW strike now. Past strikes tend to be a good time to buy shares, though. He prefers GM over Ford for its higher margins, and its EV program competes well against Ford, though Tesla is the winner in EVs (surprises him). Ford and GM are trading at a reasonable multiple, but Tesla's is much higher, which gives him pause.

Volatile, of course. Early this year, it based, then fell a bit and rose to a higher high--a good sign. It may struggle, but he's relatively bullish on Tesla.

Musk has navigated China's political landscape well. She isn't worried that Beijing will say, No more Tesla in China. Rather, Beijing continues to give a discount to domestic EV-makers, which forces Tesla to lower prices and therefore reduce its margins.

He added more puts today. Thinks shares will go lower.