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Pipelines. If he didn't know the name of the stock, he would say it has built quite a nice base without any real euphoric volume. Doesn't know what will move this if it hasn't moved yet, but it looks like the risk would be to the upside, not the downside. If he owned it, he would continue holding, but if not, he would be a buyer. Dividend yield of 2.8%.
A pipeline giant. Got highly depressed and there were concerns around the balance sheet, and he thought management had really changed their tune as to where they were going to allocate capital. Instead of getting bigger at all costs, they started getting better. It resulted in a much better free cash flow yield, so he got into this one. Dividend yield of 2.6%.
Kinder Morgan (KMI-N) or Kinder Morgan Canada (KML-T)? In the short term, he would choose neither. If certain things happen, he would look at the Kinder Morgan Canada position. The Canadian subsidiary, without the pipeline expansion, is worth $15. That is just on the assets and the quality of the assets. Since you can get the shares close to $15, you are getting all the optionality. He is waiting for an opportunity to get this under $16. In the US, it is an MLP, and he is not positive on the MLP market. *Correction by BNN on June 6/17 that they are no longer an MLP, they are a common stock company. (Bill) There is just so much debt associated in that area.
He likes this at current levels. Had a disastrous 2015 and an early 2016. They’ve been able to repair the balance sheet and work through their debt issues. Despite the price of oil, you still have to get the commodity from point A to point B. If Trump is able to pass the stimulus package infrastructure spending, it would be geared towards the pipe. We’ve seen his pro-energy reforms. This gives you a little over a 2% dividend yield.
He would rate this a Hold, but it could go to a Buy. Generally, infrastructure pipeline plays are attractive businesses. They are less impacted by the commodity cycle. Trump is talking about putting in a tax policy that will allow for depreciation of assets in the 1st year. This would be an incredible offer. A lot of these firms will take that up and will expand quickly. Profitability and cash flow, etc. will really accelerate. He also has a really friendly market for energy with the new energy secretary who is going to try and reverse the whole EPA environmental issues.
He really likes this. You are starting to see a bottom form in energy, in terms of fundamentals. Land rigs are down to a 5-year low. Deepwater rigs are at a 5-year low. If they can get some help with OPEC cutting production, that would help a lot. We’re still oversupplied on energy, but the growth rate supply has come down significantly. This company is essentially the superhighway of oil and gas in the US. They have really improved their balance sheet. The dividend has been cut and you are now getting a 3.4% yield. Now that Berkshire Hathaway is a shareholder, investors can give a little sigh of relief.
He likes the longer-term growth prospects. Feels that you can really bank on mid-single digit cash flow growth and dividend growth. It has energy infrastructure assets throughout the US and is a relatively large player. It came under pressure when commodity prices sold off so there are some sentimental related risks, unless there is a rebound in oil prices. Relatively strong balance sheet and the dividend growth is sustainable. He might increase his exposure if there is a pullback.
The company is really at an interesting time. They had a lot of spinoffs to finance their pipelines. It was really just a cost of capital arbitrage. They brought all those in, slashed the distribution to what they believe is a sustainable level, cut their backlog and stated that they were not going to borrow to fund projects. That worked when we could get money really cheap, but can’t seem to get as much money now or as cheap. They are actually migrating back to a growth stock.
He went more positive back in the fall on energy. He is comfortable being out of Canada in energy. This is a good time to build a position in energy but this is not where you get the bang. Your opportunity cost will be significant. He likes XLE-N, the ETF. Or XOP-N is more E & P.