
NASDAQ:NFLX
Facebook (FB-Q) or Netflix (NFLX-Q)? These are both dynamite companies with great opportunities in front of them. If he had to choose one over the other, he would choose Facebook. Looking at over the next year, Facebook just has so many different engines that are running, and almost none of them are dependent on another company. Netflix has huge growth in subscribers globally, but still somewhat dependent on 2nd or 3rd party contracts.
Their last quarter was an absolute blowout. They have 52 million international subscribers and 52 million domestically, and is continuing to grow. Margins will expand, and he can see a world where, if you want to see the latest premium Netflix original, it might cost $1 more a month. The largest subscription service anywhere in the world. (Analysts’ price target is $196.)
In terms of the chart and price action, this has been more than impressive, but looking at valuations, he has a mixed view. This is a stock that is trading at almost 100X forward earnings, albeit it does have a 30%-40% expected growth rate, which still gives it a 2.4X PEG ratio, a little rich for him. Feels a breakthrough in China is still elusive to them. Expansion in international markets hasn’t been that profitable. There is still potential for serious competition from places like Amazon, Google and HBO.
You can’t argue with the success of the share price on this. It continues to move higher. For portfolio managers that look at metrics, it has been a tough go, because the shares continue to trade very high in terms of multiples and valuations. Trading at nearly 90X forward PE ratio. It has a very strong growth rate of about 35%, but still, that puts it at 2.5X PEG ratio. Difficult to own this name when there are lots of other technology names that you can own at lower multiples. One challenge is that content costs are high.
Trading at 130X forward PE, a very high ratio. It has a great long-term growth rate of 35% for earnings. It is difficult for him to consider this name for a value or GARP name. However, global subscribers are growing, and he expects them to reach 99 million by the end of Q1. However, costs are swelling, because they continually need to increase their original content. There is also competition.
This is pricey in terms of a PE multiple, trading at nearly 300X on a forward earnings basis. However, they’ve got great growth and exciting things are happening with them. Doing very well going to the international market, not so much in China. They are going to reach about 92 million subscribers internationally. Their costs are swelling, because they have to get a lot of original content, which is going to be a headwind for them. He views this as more of a trading stock than anything.
Since the early part of this year, this has stayed in a very, very narrow range bound type of market. Its current range seems to be $80-$85-$100. Subscriber growth is getting to be a little less than what was expected. A lot of the grandfathering that went on with pricing, is now being un-grandfathered. There is a lot of competition in the streaming area. Trading at a pretty high valuation, and you have to be careful of paying these types of multiples for a company like this. On a forward PE basis, you are paying 200X earnings. Growth is expected to be 33%, and what if the competition heats up a bit more.
Just bought some today. Expectations had been and are high. The street was looking for $2.1 billion in revenue, and it only delivered $1.5 billion, but the earnings was a beat. They expect to put on 300,000 subscribers in the next quarter. There are lots of reasons for the drop of 13% and it was warranted. However, they do have about 600 hours of original programming scheduled in the next 6 months.
NFLX-Q vs. FB-Q. Two of the fang names have taken us thus far. He would prefer Netflix. It gapped up to $160. FB-Q is bumping its head on rising trend line resistance. He expects a retracement here. He prefers NTFLX-Q.