Freeport McMoran Copper & Gold (FCX)

China is the biggest buyer of copper in the world, over 50% worldwide. Long-term, copper is a winner, used widely (power generation, EVs, and elsewhere). FCX is one of the largest copper companies, the biggest in the U.S. FCX has bounced around because of Trump's tariffs. He will sit tight, but expected copper demand to double in coming years.

The question also asked about his opinion in general on copper. He likes copper which is the most important of the metals and is therefore in great demand. The price of copper has been hit by tariffs. It is hard to predict the price by random events and the Trump effect. Freeport McMoran is in the U.S. so it has that plus.

Q2 beat. She's still bullish on gold and copper. More cyclical than large-cap tech or utilities. Strong US operations. A bit volatile for her, but still some upside of about 8% to price target from here.

If copper stays above $5, FCX will see $9 billion in free cash flow. Shares are not cheap at 20x PE, but earnings growth is a huge 20-40%. Fundamentally, shares should be much higher.

It has a hard time breaking $45-46. It's now at the upper end of its trading range, so sell calls. Just reported nice numbers.

If copper stays at $5, they should produce $9 billion in free cash flow or 15% free cash flow yield.

Obvious way to play the copper sector. Copper and gold. Significant breakout in the price of copper. Great dividend growth stock over time. Big cash generator.

Copper stocks are very volatile. He uses stop losses on all positions, so ended up coming out of this one. Re-entered about 2 months ago. Should generate a lot of cash longer term. Significant dividend grower. Should actually benefit from tariffs.

Taken a big hit. Divergence between copper prices and company's performance. Generational opportunity to buy a company like this. Secularly, we're using more and more copper for electrification. Analysts see 7-8% compound  growth rate in copper usage over next 10 years. Yield is 2.01%.

The negative is that 50% of copper is used by China. If tariffs don't get sorted out, something's gotta give. It's not easy to bring mines on quickly. Good risk/reward at current levels.

It's fallen off a cliff since tariffs. Watch FCX as an economic indicator, but would not buy this. At best, this is a short-term trade, but he's a long-term investor.

China's comeback didn't happen in the past year while EV adoption has slowed, but will still happen. The copper spot price is up 25% this quarter. So, FCX will have a great quarter, given their link to that price, but the market won't anticipate that due to fear of tariffs and the impact on copper prices. Will copper be a protected mineral? Tariffs on foreign/Chinese copper? Don't know yet, but long term the secular tailwinds are intact. Copper usage will double over 7 years.

Bought, in part, on prospects of a greener world. Came down on weaker China and on the (much less green) Trump victory. Didn't execute as well in Q4, softer sales, higher capex. Copper's a good long-term bet. Trades at 15x with 19% growth.

Still likes it. USA really needs to grow its way out of this deficit.

A cyclical, and last year was poor for them all due to China's weakness. Deferral of EV adoption. Have to be patient. Story is still intact. Copper demand still rising at 2-3x what GDP is growing at, and supply is finite.

Worked for much of the year, then disappointing. He trimmed some. Thought China would do a bit better. Thought there'd be a green agenda, but now there's Trump. Earnings this morning seem weaker at first glance. Very whippy. Should be higher due to the AI buildout. Traded at a wide price to NAV, a risk if copper didn't do well or execution was poor.

You don't need to own this one forever.

If you look at the quality assets, you'd say own it. But copper's located in a lot of countries you don't want to be in. Just told by Indonesia that it wants more from mines than previously agreed. He owns HBM.