
TSE:ENB
ENB-T vs. IPL-T. He owned ENB-T for a while. The payout was 48%. Their earnings have picked up considerably. They are reasonably profitable. They will have -5% earnings growth next year. You are secure in the yield. IPL-T is higher than ENB-T at a sustainable 60% with earnings pulling back 7% next year. He thinks both will trade sideways for a while.
TRP-T or ENB-T? At these prices, he thinks TRP-T is in fantastic shape and the mainline natural gas represents half of the company’s NAV. Within a short period of time he thinks this will decline to only about 10-15% of NAV. This signifies how the company is diversifying – although the stock is a little expensive right now. ENB-T is less dynamic, but he believes their infrastructure is advantaged (as there are few projects being approved) and the dividend continue to grow. You could own both and not be concerned.
All their pipelines are full. They will not be missing earnings. They are rolling up their complex structure, which he feels will make it more attractive to investors. They have committed to 10% dividend growth over the next 2-3 years. He thinks this is a $50 stock. Yield 6.2%. (Analysts’ price target is $54.36)
The company has had an interesting year falling from $50 early in the year to lows near $37. The issues now relate to the conversion of the Income Fund MLP and how they are issuing shares to buy them back. Line 3 is now de-risked, so at this price the yield is good and has potential to grow again. Yield 7%.
Asked to compare Enbridge and TransCanada, he said he currently owns only Enbridge. Both are utility companies. Both pay high yields. Their stock prices are very interest-rate sensitive because interest rates drive the relative value of their dividends and because they borrow enormous amounts of money and interest rates determine the cost of carrying these loans. Enbridge focused on growth for a while, making its stock more attractive, but it took on too much debt and has had to focus on dealing with that. He is holding stock in Enbridge for clients who need steady income and he does buy it when the stock price falls too much, but this is, in general, the wrong time to buy utilities. Yield 6%.
The problem for this company is that once the price of oil fell the demand for pipelines declined. The growth prospects were diminished, and they had some growth priced in. The discount on Canadian crude affected them. The demand for pipelines will be there as long as politicians and electric vehicles don’t get in the way. Has a lot of debt. Still the dividend is safe. It will come back to 50 dollars in the next couple of years.