
He looked at this about 18 months ago. They were moving from writing cheques in Canada and into more interesting stuff in the US. Unfortunately, that didn’t work out, in the short term anyway. They took a hit and they cut their dividend. The bloom is kind of off this for now. He is not interested. Dividend yield of 5.8%.
Conceptually he loves the area they are going to, regarding the payment system, electronic banking, etc. The acquisitions they’ve done in the past 2 years have yet to prove themselves, which is a problem because there is a lot of debt on the balance sheet. Not sure about the quality of assets they acquired in the past year. He would love to see a quarter or 2 of good results.
Sold his holdings in May, when there was a bad quarter of earnings. The company did a number of acquisitions; however the acquisitions weren’t bringing the revenue in fast enough, and hence they were over levered on all of them. Q4 basically missed on all factors, and the stock fell off a cliff. They’ve been able to renegotiate their debt covenants, so that is all clean. Also, reduced distributions. The last move, from $17 to about $18, was based on the potential of an acquisition. If it does not happen, he expects the stock will decline. However, if it does happen, you could see about 20% from where we are today.
The stock plummeted recently. Whenever he sees a stock fall 40%, he asks if it is a company specific problem, management incompetence or something that is more widespread. Their peer group are having similar problems, so he doesn’t think it is a company specific issue, it is basically industrywide. Also, banks and financial institutions are moving away from discretionary spending, and only spending on what they have to, which is risk and compliance. There are examples of banks now adopting more subscription base software services, where they have lower payments or an extended period of time, rather than larger upfront payments. That is going to hurt the sector. On the FinTech companies, a lot of banks are going with smaller upstarts, and not with the bigger guys. Given the secular trends that are occurring right now, he would probably wait.
It was in an uptrend and this year is a disaster. It is a good example of what happens when support breaks. $28 was pretty darn good support, although there were lower highs. Then they guided lower on earnings. It is the law of gravity here. Don’t catch a falling knife. It will go as low as it wants. If it stops making lower lows then it looks like it is getting healthy and you watch for a breakout.
Not something he would buy. There is still uncertainty around earnings growth, and even direction of the business over the next 3-5 years. If you are a little further on the risk spectrum, you might want to take a half position here, otherwise wait to get a little more clarity on earnings on a go-forward basis.