Tesla Inc (TSLA)

As a vehicle, it is wonderful and many people own it. Wouldn’t own the stock. Traded at a very high multiple because people thought of it as a technology company. While it is very innovative and a wonderful company, as a stock in this environment it is going to get crushed. It is expensive and trades with an absurd multiple.

You need a high risk tolerance for this stock. Holding one like this for a long period of time is pretty risky, and the stock is extremely expensive. Price momentum has started to fall off and is down about 45% from its recent highs. There are no valuation metrics on this, because they have no cash flows. Purely speculative.

Hated the stock for a long time and is finally seeing some joy. Elon Musk is a visionary and has a confidence to not only blow his billions, but all kinds of other shareholders billions, in order to build an electric car. The electric car is here. The battery is not the issue; the issue is that there is nothing unique about what they do. They started by building a great new car and were out first. But often the 1^st mover is not the winner. Cars are fashion statements and people like to buy them because of the way they look. All the manufacturers are going to come out with electric cars, so it really comes down to style. This company has struggled to make 55,000 cars a year and they make no money on their cars. They are living on tax credits to cover part of their costs. When competition comes out that has a lot of skill in mass scale manufacturing, how can this company possibly get the critical mass they need?

He has owned it since 2012. It will go sideways for now until they come out with the model 3 in 2017/18 and this will compete with BMW (3 series). It has lots of potential.

(A Top Pick Dec 16/14. Up 13.5%.) Everybody has to be careful when you get into these names. This is not just a car company; it is a design, an innovation, a cult. He would be happy to own a little bit of this in a TFSA, and just put it away.

(A Top Pick Dec 16/14. Up 7.66%.) This is more than a car company. He no longer owns this, but it is something that he would like to have back because it is going to be a really interesting innovative story over time.

Has traded this in and out on his aggressive portfolio from time to time. A big believer in what they are doing. Too volatile and too unproven to get into his regular portfolios. The whole thing is very exciting, but is going to be very volatile. If you are going to buy this, only Buy a small amount and have it in a “special situation” portfolio.

Chart shows a long period of consolidation from 2011 and into 2013 followed by a break out in 2013. There is a broken trend line from 2013 up to 2014 and it peaks across at around $280. He would think that the advance on this is near completion. Wouldn’t want to be long on this.

This is a 200X forward price earnings multiple. Some of these names are great products, great services, but in terms of valuations they are way out there, and this is not a name he can own for clients. Likes the product and feels they have a unique business model, but they have a high burn rate in terms of cash flow.

In order to buy this today, you really need to have a vision of what this company can do and what they can earn over the next 10 years. They plan to sell 50,000 cars a year, which is a very small scale in the scheme of things. The real payoff won’t come until they are able to lower the price of their electric cars. This is not something he would own right now.

His feeling on this is that you are probably better off buying the car rather than the stock. The company has a tremendous amount of optimism built into the stock price. They produce a wonderful product. But looking at the stock in any way, they are many, many hundreds of times more expensive than Ford (F-N) or General Motors (GM-N). Thinks the market got carried away with their response to the product, and bid the stock up to levels that is pure speculation.

Many people would say this is revolutionizing the auto industry, and many are comparing it to what Apple (AAPL-Q) did 10-15 years ago. He would be cautious. Automobiles are expensive products to make. A very capital intensive business. It will take some time for them to gain market share.

He has reduced his holding in this stock on two occasions but still owns it. It is ahead of itself based on revenues and earnings. Revenues are expected to grow 50% next year and the PE is 50 times.. Their giga factory is going to delay itself from all other competitors. They believe their vehicles will become competitive with other non-electric vehicles.

Phenomenal vehicles. A very fast growing company. Trading at over 200X earnings. Has a market cap much larger than some of the very large automobile companies that sell 50 times the number of vehicles a year than this company does.

He struggles when it comes to owning businesses that are not free cash flow generative. They have been very creative in their capital raising and in their management. It will stand the test of time. It will be challenging in this environment, however.