
TSE:TRP
Defensive assets are garnering less and less of a bid as people become more comfortable with economic risk. Used this name as a source of cash to add more beta to portfolios. Great company, but relative price performance has started to back off for the pipelines group. Pipelines carry a lot of debt, and financing costs could get more expensive if long-term yields stay high.
This is the one he likes in the space. Part of its business is very utility-like. Steady dividend, which will rise over time. Dividend also looks attractive in the face of an economic slowdown when interest rates would fall. Hold for the long haul.
More pipeline builds would certainly be an opportunity for growth for this name, but that's not why he owns it.
Even if that were to happen, you'd want to put your exposure to energy in the pipelines. We are going to see increased volumes, barring a recession in the States or NA. Fantastic news for pipelines. Not worried so much about what the price actually is, the way a driller or downstream producer would be. Relatively decent dividend.
The total return includes a big dividend. It has rallied on interest rate cuts and has also benefited from the euphoria around data centres which consume a lot of power. The main source of immediate energy needs over the next ten years is natural gas since nuclear and renewables will take time to build out.
He owned it for a while. Had a big run-up last year but thinks it is pretty much done now with a lot of insider selling. Tends to have big swings.