
TSE:FRU
Fine, good income. Lots of potential growth. Valuations are higher on the royalty companies. He'd rather roll with the producers, heavy oil or core oil, with 3-4x operating cashflow. They also have a lot more ability to pay out. Whereas royalty companies are 6-8x, just for a better and more consistent payout ratio and not as much operational risk. Yield is about 7%.
FRU is such a low-cost producer, it hasn't benefited as much as marginal producers have in the uptick in oil/gas prices. So its margins haven't increased as much. FRU asset package is so good, he's happy to own it despite this year's price action. He likes both names.