
TSE:BCE
Earnings today, numbers weren't bad, well-needed relief. Not raising dividend, as balance sheet's really been an issue. Duking it out with competitors; this may have reached an inflection point in terms of pricing and negativity, but will take a couple of quarters to show up. Asset sales, reducing headcount.
All eyes are on telecoms and regulators right now for roaming and wholesale rates. If there's a positive outcome there, plus lower interest rates, then BCE has more to go.
Canadian telcos are an interesting space. He's been cutting his positions in them over several months, mainly because competitive intensity is remaining quite high. Dominant, but is the payout ratio sustainable? Will the price war abate?
He's cautious. Step away for now. A better time to buy would be when you no longer get those text offers of extra data for only $5 more.
Telecom's the only sector that's done worse than REITs this year. Headwinds of competition, interest rate sensitivity, dividend. Doesn't think dividend will be cut, lots of levers it can pull. If you own it for yield (and it's tax-efficient yield), you'll be OK. Yield is in 7.5-8% range.
Not a bad place to be as interest rates are decreasing. May not get a lot of dividend hikes over the next few years. If you want long-term capital appreciation, not an area he'd focus on. Sometimes it's worth it to sell, take the tax loss, and recycle the proceeds somewhere else to make money (into REITs, for example).
The board must be considering this with the payout ratio above 100%. But if BCE cuts the dividend at a modest 15-20%, there might be a positive move in the share price, perhaps not initially, because investors want this. Their subscriptions may be down, but the sell-off of shares is overdone. If BCE does cut, the knee-jerk reaction may be a sell-off, and that's when he might pick away at it.
Chart looks interesting. Early stages, but looks as though it's successfully retested support at $31.50 USD from April and early July. Getting towards the top of its $31-34 trading range. So far, so good. Long-term underperformer, near bottom of his Canadian RSI large-cap rankings.
Technically quite encouraging if it was able to break out above $34.
(Note prices in USD.)
Higher interest rates have hurt all the telcos. Dividend very attractive at 9%, looks secure for the time being, we'll see if it remains so. Pretty intense competition in the wireless space. Streaming is getting bigger. Regulatory risk. Pretty capital intensive.
If you hold, continue to collect the dividend, and keep an eye on technicals to see what an exit point might be, which might already have passed. Extremely oversold at this point.
Using BCE as an example, its growth has decelerated, volume growth consumes a large amount of capital, while pricing power is limited in the industry. But, Canada remains an oligopoly with little real competition, and largely, we do not believe its dividend is at any real risk in the medium term. One of the issues has been a combination of slowing growth, mixed with lower free cash flows relative to its dividend payments, resulting in increased borrowing at currently high rates. While a 5% interest rate may not seem objectively high, when considering the levels these companies were borrowing before, the rate of change is extremely high, and this is what impacts a company's bottom line.
We would like to see BCE and other telcos tighten up on spending and begin to improve their margins to fully secure current dividend payments, but debt levels have been rising and this has led to some concerns by investors. We do not like the negative momentum of the name, but we believe a lot of worries have been priced into the name and we feel it can be slowly accumulated by income investors with a long-term timeframe.
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Often when you see a stock with an 8+% dividend yield, you think value trap. Paying out more in dividends than it's earning, still secure. Large restructuring. Thinks by 2025 will be covering dividend again. Even if the stock never goes up, you're getting an over 8% return, and that's pretty decent. Revenue stream is evolving; management has been aggressive in a tough environment and is dealing with it.
Cautions the "senior senior" to have a diversified portfolio. Don't plow all your money into any stock.
Not as much leverage on the balance sheet as peers. Shares have contracted to a very attractive valuation, plus a 9% yield. He'd choose BCE at this point.
Telus usually trades at a premium to peers due to higher growth and further ahead in fibre to the home. Should benefit from immigration. Most diversified of the Big 3.
A contrarian theme, instead of chasing large US tech stocks. "Be greedy when others are fearful." Strong brand. A conservative investment. Long-life, high-quality assets. Great recurring revenue. Better balance sheet than some peers, fewer service outages, a more stable management team. Trades below market average at 14x PE. Yield is 9%.
Shares have traded down due to: interest-rate sensitivity and competition with higher bond returns, sector competition, regulatory challenges.
See his article in the Financial Post or on the goodreid.com blog.
In the TSX 60 index, has come up a bit in RSI rankings from #60, tied with Rogers at #55. Telecom, in general, has struggled for quite some time. Chart's broken out of a downtrend, nice pickup above $45. Took out $47.50, would look great if it breaks $49.50-50 (first resistance), but still in his red zone (the lower half).
Looking more encouraging now that it's started to climb up off the bottom.