Royal Bank (RY.TO)

The newly issued perpetual preferred shares? Perpetual shares are like a long-term bond. They are out there forever at a set rate, so it depends on where you think interest rates are going. In the near term, Canada has been trending down in contrast to the US. Eventually US rates are going to be moving up. As the Canadian economy hopefully starts to gain some momentum, rates should be going up. When interest rates go up, bond prices usually go down, so perpetuals are actually not the best thing to own in that kind of environment. In a rising rate environment, she would rather own Fixed Reset Preferreds, which get reset every 5 years.

One of his two favourites (see Top Picks). Others came off double digits. It is behaving very well technically. They will do well building on their wealth management in the US and Canada. The banks are a core holding and this is one of two.

Stock vs. Stock. RY-T vs. TD-T. For the first time in a decade, TD-T has moved into the top three on a 10-year performance basis. RY-T is first, however. Everything they are doing is based on 10 year ago investments. TD-Ts US investments are only just starting to get hold.

Certainly a good blue-chip pick in Canada. He favours US large cap banks today over some of the Canadians, but of the Canadian banks this one is reasonably well positioned. Has a strong franchise and an excellent capitals market business. Conservatively managed. Nice dividend.

He likes the Canadian banks by and large. RY-T is the most expensive amongst the banks. There is a good reason, it is the best quality.

(A Top Pick June 3/14. Up 9.3%.) Reported their quarter with a surprise to the upside. Capital markets did a bit better than expected. Thinks the Canadian economy will slowly improve and doesn’t expect there will be a housing collapse. Earnings growth won’t be as strong as it has been in prior years, but she is expecting about 5% earnings growth.

Market capitalization is greater than the other banks. To what extent does this impact its potential for growth and downside risk? This is the biggest with its capital of over $112 billion. It is bigger in capital markets, retail and just about everything they do, relative to the other, but that also has brought in some degree of stability. Represents fairly good value with an almost 4% yield. Not a bad place to have your money.

Royal Bank (RY-T) or BCE (BCE-T)? In terms of one or the other, it is hard when it is in such a divisive space. This one has a good wealth management platform, where he thinks growth is going to continue. One of the better positioned banks. Both companies pay good dividends, and both are best of breed. If you had to pick one over the other, it would be BCE for the short term.

He buys a basket of banks. All the Canadian banks are doing fine in this environment. The days of 10-15% growth are over, but you will see nice 3-7% now.

Royal (RY-T) or Bank of Montréal (BMO-T)? His 3 biggest holdings are National (NA-T), Toronto Dominion (TD-T) and Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS-T). On a valuation basis, the cheapest is National which is trading at 10X next year’s earnings. On this, pick 1 or 2 banks, and never sell them and then go from there.

One of the leading financial institutes in Canada. The Canadian banking sector has underperformed year to date. This one is relatively better positioned, compared to some of the others. He would suggest you look at US financials instead, where PEs are trading at lower valuation levels, than Canadian banks. If you own this, you are probably not going to go too far wrong.

Just announced an acquisition a few months ago. This is very big on the wealth management side of things. That can be lumpy, but hasn’t been in the last little while. In Canada, a large part of the banks earnings have been mortgages, and banks have grown at a rate of double GDP. That can’t continue forever. The banks pay good dividends and they don’t get cut. His preference would be Toronto Dominion (TD-T) followed by Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS-T) followed by this bank.

Has been down recently due to markets being very jittery, particularly the ones that are interest sensitive. Canadian banks are going to be facing a bit more pressure from a net interest margin perspective, particularly because the Bank of Canada cut its rates recently. However, if the US is going to be raising its rates on a go forward basis, companies that have exposure to US revenues stand to benefit. This is a very strong business in terms of its capital market prowess, as well as their ability to drive into wealth management businesses as well. Valuation is compelling. (See Top Picks.)

Which Canadian banks are you bullish on? She doesn’t have heavy weightings in banks right now, but if she were to be adding one this would be her favourite. Missed in the 4^th quarter, but thinks that was just year-end adjustments. Have an attractive wholesale US business which you benefit from.

Just reported and their strength was on the domestic retail side, a little stronger than what people thought it would be. Margins are actually up a snick, where it was thought they would be down. Capital market was a lot stronger than people were expecting. Good yield of 3.95% which is likely to be increased 3%-4% later in the year.