Pembina Pipeline Corp (PPL.TO)

Trashed along with the entire energy sector. Surprising how low this fell, but he bought in the mid-20s. Safe dividend. Smart operators. They can reduce costs further, if needed. The selling is way overdone here and with Enbridge.

Historically these have been great assets to own. They will follow energy stocks in general too. He prefers to own KEY over PPL. There have been concerns about insolvencies with producers in the energy space with low oil prices. He has added more to their KEY holdings, thinking the natural gas space is safer than oil right now. He would own a couple of holdings in a diversified way.

Outlook for Pembina in fulfilling take-or-pay contracts with clients. That's exactly the concern behind the stock going down. That's the risk. It's like Chorus Aviation's relationship to Air Canada (though AC has a strong balance sheet and is well-positioned). PPL was trading at a pricey 20x EBIT to EBITDA. Pays a big, growing yield at a reasonable payout ratio, assuming they can maintain cash flow. The market is determining how risky that is. PPL has lost its utility-like premium and trading down. Valuation is cheaper, but it's becoming volatile. Let the dust settle before considering this.

Suncor vs. Pembina Investor sentiment for oil is very weak, but Suncor is among the better performers in the last decade because their Oil Sands assets have such a long life that they don't have to keep investing money each year to maintain that production. Ultimately, Canada needs to see takeaway capacity to improve. He owns Pembina which is not as directly effected by the oil price. Suncor is an oil play; Pembina is an income play. Either one is fine.