Visa Inc.VCOMMENTJul 10, 2015Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Sep 25, 2026. Market Open.
You'd have to go back a very long time to find his firm holding MA. Owned V for a long time, mainly on the valuation differential. MA has always been 4-6 multiple points higher. Visa is better value. Likes the space.
V might be stronger on the debit card side, which is growing at a faster rate than the credit side. Likes management. PE in the 20s, a discount to normalized multiples. Consistent, predictable. Earnings continue to do well. Nice hedge to a lot of companies that are in the news.
Visa and Mastercard have been treading water the past year because the market has been fixated on AI, but that money has been rotating out of AI into places like credit cards. The two companies have some of the best business models, big moats and trading at attractive PEs, though neither are at decades-long low PEs. Visa's layoff of 7% of workforce is good for the stock. Probably AI is making Visa more productive.
Mastercard and Visa have been weak because cash-to-card conversion has historically been the easiest thing for them to do but is now over. Value-added services are instead driving more growth. Agentic AI traffic is about to go parabolic, so can the cards play the role of authentication layer? He thinks so, and they should. Stablecoins and peer-to-peer transactions are not big deals, not major threats.
Stock has been on fire for the last 4-5 years, and thinks we are still in the early stages. It still has lots of upside, primarily because of the move away from spending cash and going to plastic. As much as it has happened in North America, globally it is still quite young and there is going to be much more of a move in that direction in the coming years. Also, are in bed with Apple Pay, which is in the very early stages. Trading at around 30X PE. Prefers this over MasterCard (MA-N). You have to be willing to accept some volatility and that you are not going to get paid much of a dividend.