Stock price when the opinion was issued
He looks at performance in 1-, 6- and 12-month time frames. The 1- and 6 months were negative, but over 12 months the stock is up 55%. Actually, he insists it was positive over the past month. (The host insists it is down the past month, but it depends on precisely which days and times of the day are noted for the calculations.)
For 2026, the big thing is going to be the Optimus robot. Company estimates it will sell 20-30k of these $20k robots. They're already being used in factories. Also things going on with Grok, the large language model; needs a partner, and he feels it will be AAPL.
EVs are important, but you have to look to the future with this one. May be dead money for the next quarter, but will absolutely bounce back with Optimus.
Sales are falling and it is not making much money. No new car models in 5 years although it has some energy storage and services components. There is excitement over its Robo taxis and humanoids but there is a lot of competition all over the world in this. How do you justify a market cap of $1 trillion. If buying, he would consider it a precarious one.
Funny that people who bought a year ago have to attach explanatory bumper stickers. If it's going to be a good buy at $200-225, it's a good buy at $265; you're buying it for the longer term. He can't come to terms with the valuation.
If you decide you want to buy, put in 10% today, and you'll feel better. If you've wanted it for a long time, and you don't pull the trigger today, you'll forever hesitate. It's just psychology.
His father has a wonderful expression, "It's the second mouse that gets the cheese." Not sure tariffs are enough to provide continuing support for an EV car maker when the Chinese are doing it so much cheaper.