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Long-term bonds and the yield curve.

He'd say we're going to get a re-steepening. His feeling is that the long end of the yield curve is actually going to shift higher, flattening out on the short side. That's where your risk is buying long bonds. Maybe not so much on the GOC or provincial side, but on the corporate side. 

Corporate side you get the impact potentially of re-steepening, which increases rates but decreases price. You could also get the impact of spreads widening.

His philosophy has been to stay short-duration bonds, of 1-3 years, and to wait out those maturities. On some corporates you can lock in 6.5%, government's are closer to low 5's. It's a reasonable place to hide out. If we see a recession, we could see a re-steepening at that point.

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Why have both fixed and floating rate preferred shares declined?

You're right. Rate resets in this environment should do much better. It's a very thin market, going from around $80B to somewhere in the $50s. Especially for taxable accounts, the after-tax yield is quite high.

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Energy.

WTI is trading pretty close to its lows, coming off $105 over the past year. OPEC+ is really trying to control supply and inflate prices where they can. Energy companies look extremely affordable, with some trading at 2.5x cashflow. He's slightly below market weight on energy exposure, and that's split 50/50 between pipelines and producers. 

We have to wait for the elephant in the room, which is China to come back to the table. That's where the demand dynamic starts to shift. Supply is coming down and producers aren't drilling the way they were before. We're not getting new production of energy to support lower prices, we're getting the opposite. 

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Market breadth.

It's hard not to be concerned in the market. Every day, you're fighting to stay positive. He's not fully 100% bullish.  There are things he's worried about, such as inflation and interest rates. 

If you look at the history of the stock market, the outsized gains have come from a small set of companies, so it's not totally outside of normal. The beauty of investing is that you can have an investment that goes down 100%, but if you're a long-only investor, you could have something that goes up 10,000%. Hopefully, you can find some of those in your lifetime and it makes a big difference.

Shorter term, some research shows that the top 10 stocks make up about 32% of the S&P 500 gains in every year since 1995. He wants to see breadth expand in the second half, but he's not scared by the narrow leadership.

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Logical for tech to have rallied so much in the face of higher interest rates?

It's a reversal of last year. All markets are dependent on interest rates. We went through this period of worrying about rates and inflation. We're getting past that, though there's still work to do. 

If we think about tech as a longer duration asset, which is to say that a lot of the value could be in the outer years, that's why those stocks performed the worst when inflation was the biggest problem. 

Now they're rebounding. Part of it is a rebound. Part of it is a return to the idea that they can lead in growth also. There was a period when the FANGs were generating much better sales growth and earnings growth than the market. That's why they commanded a premium. Coming out of Covid, that wasn't the case. But now we're coming back to the same thing, where expectations have ratcheted up. We could see sales growth 2-3x higher than the market over the next few years.

There are fundamental underpinnings to the rally. It's not all fluff.

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During a recession, percentage of a portfolio to keep liquid for future purchases?

It will always depend on your own personal financial situation. Generally, one of the best strategies for non-professional investors has been dollar-cost averaging. Continually invest in the market over time, by trying to set aside a certain amount of your disposable income. 

Volatility works both ways. If you're in cash and you miss a large downside move, it's highly likely you'll miss a large upside move to the other side. It's very difficult, if not impossible, to try to time the market. Better to just deploy your cash over time.

Assuming you can afford to, automatic contributions to your investment account are great, because that takes away the decision-making every month.

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Big 6 Canadian banks.

Canada is known for having a tighter, more concentrated, more resilient banking sector. That's still the case. Where is the most value in the market? It's in bank and energy stocks. Extreme value plus a cyclical bent. 

Safe owning them for a long time. The one thing embedded in a decision to buy them now is how the economy progresses. If the economy gets a bit worse, it's going to be a problem, but that's not his base case.

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The US dramatically outperformed Canada with the S&P up 16% vs. TSX's 4%. A big spread though in both countries with large caps outperforming midcaps. Tech and energy have reversed trends this year vs. 2022. For future growth, investors should look at small/midcaps, because they are more nimble and it's lot easier for such companies to double in size and get the multiple expansion. He prefers (and specializes in) Canadian over American stocks.

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He remains bullish for the second half of 2023. Companies across the board (airlines, casinos, steel, though not retail) are more positive than macro-economists. Earnings estimates for companies keep rising. He's sticking with cyclicals. Watch Q2 earnings.

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He missed the rally in megatech, missed this new generation of investors. He still believes we're heading to a recession. 

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Should. The market should have reacted different to rising rates and the yield curve inversion in the first half of 2023. Instead, the bulls have taken over and now see a new bull market rather than a bear market rally. She's not sure this sentiment will endure. She wishes she had not missed the rally in megatech. It's interesting that investors shifted from believing that if yields are down then tech is good to if yields are up the tech is good. They both cannot be right and something will have to give.

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Was not expecting 500 basis point interest rate hike - without recession. 
Still believes recession on its way with higher interest rates.
Caution warranted for investors who are too optimistic. 
Investors don't believe that Fed will keep rates higher for longer. 
Unsure whether strength in economy is due to previous stimulus, or fundamentally strong business'.

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12% inflation from the 1980's not comparable to today.
Not worried about prime interest rate rising as high as 1980 rate @ 15%.

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