Rob Sechan, Managing Partner, New Edge Capital Mastercard Inc. MA-N BUY ON WEAKNESS Jun 13, 2025

Visa and Mastercard both have no credit risk and are doing incredibly well.

Down because everything's down. Concern that in an economic slowdown people will be slower to pay off credit cards, and there will be less travel. Doesn't have the credit risks that banks do. 

Visa is his favourite, multiple is a few points cheaper than MA. Debit card business growing faster than MA, and greater European and international tentacles.

Forward PE ~31x, and it will always be at a premium because the space has very few competitors. Stock's near oversold at this point, slightly below 200-day. 200-day MA and 200-week MA are both still trending higher, so long-term this name is fine.

Right now, market is trading on news not fundamentals. This name is 16% below recent highs. Buy now and you'll be happy 6-24 months out. Economic slowdown will affect consumer. Who knows what tariffs will look like down the road?

He owns MA instead of Visa, mainly due to its slightly better upside and longer runway. Upside in low 20% range.

Not as constructive on it, simply because the valuation's been reset. Still a core part of his portfolio, and has been for a decade.

Both great, both enjoying growth ahead with much of the world still to adopt cashless payment. MA has seen a little higher growth, but both have good growth and both enjoy 97% gross margins and 67% operating margins. They got knocked about occasionally over fears of regulation. Prefers Visa slightly over its valuation discount. Good to buy either.

Still buying for new clients. US consumer remains very resilient, spending patterns still moving higher. Retail sales near all-time highs today. Tollbooth model gives it pricing power. More fintech partnerships help with long-term growth.

All credit cards are down 4-5% today on the stablecoin report. Stablecoin has been around, and PayPal has its own. Think about how long it will take in terms of regulations for Walmrt and Amazon to get into this businesses. Also, consumers like to wrack up credit card points. Stablecoin is a long way off. VA and MA are super companies. This is an opportunity.