
TSE:BCE
This has held in pretty well as all good dividends paying stocks did. The big issue with big telcos in general is that half their earnings, interest, tax and appreciation comes from their wire line business. That business is dying slowly. Their offset to that has been acquisitions, boosting their dividend greater than their earnings through tax strategies, their mobile strategy and their forays into advertising and sports content. This is just above investment grade and he would not call it a safe dividend stock.
Sell Rogers (RCI.B-T) and buy Bell (BCE-T)?A really interesting question, particularly with the 1st salvo we’ve had from the trade negotiations were the US has said that they want to have greater access to our telecommunications industry. In that case, he’s not sure you want to own any of these. His preference would be with this one, but only because it is dominant within the wireless industry. Also feels it would be a little more secure in the longer-term.
You recommended using Covered Calls as a Top Pick on June 15/17. What strike price specifically? There were 2 reasons for that recommendation. Had thought BCE had sold off quite a bit with a dividend yield in excess of 5%. Doesn’t think there is a lot of downside in it, and would look at writing a longer-term Call Option. He was looking at it as an income generating strategy. You want to think of the premium from the Call Option as a 5th dividend that you are receiving. At the current price of $58.25, he would go for a $60 Call Option, which gives you a little upside, and you are collecting a dividend in excess of 5%. The stock is not volatile. If able to sell a $60 Call and go out 6 to 8 months, you will probably get the equivalent of a dividend payment.
This doesn’t have much growth, but has a 5%-ish dividend, so your return is going to be mostly the dividend plus a little bit of capital appreciation. If interest rates go up a lot, this is the kind of stock that will be in a bit of trouble, because the low growth can’t offset where the dividend yield would have to go.
Telecom is more of a defensive space and a dividend payer, so he has no names in this space. However, this is a great name for someone who is looking for income and a very, very stable and reliable income. Dividend yield of about 4.9%. Shares are trading at just over 9X Enterprise Value over EBITDA, which is about average over the last 10 years.
In the short to intermediate term, this company is fine. The dividend yield is approaching 4.7%, pretty close to 5%, and that dividend is secure. If buying this as a conservative safety element, and part of an income profile, this is fine. He questions the longer-term business models of the telecoms. The Internet is changing a lot of things.
Switch out of Bell Canada (BCE-T) to Pembina Pipeline (PPL-T)? An interesting comparison. He wouldn’t make the switch. They are very different risk profiles. This is a very stable business and you can rely on the dividend and not have to worry about it. Yield of about 4.8%.