Visa Inc.VCOMMENTJan 10, 2017Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Sep 24, 2026. Market Open.
You'd have to go back a very long time to find his firm holding MA. Owned V for a long time, mainly on the valuation differential. MA has always been 4-6 multiple points higher. Visa is better value. Likes the space.
V might be stronger on the debit card side, which is growing at a faster rate than the credit side. Likes management. PE in the 20s, a discount to normalized multiples. Consistent, predictable. Earnings continue to do well. Nice hedge to a lot of companies that are in the news.
Visa and Mastercard have been treading water the past year because the market has been fixated on AI, but that money has been rotating out of AI into places like credit cards. The two companies have some of the best business models, big moats and trading at attractive PEs, though neither are at decades-long low PEs. Visa's layoff of 7% of workforce is good for the stock. Probably AI is making Visa more productive.
Mastercard and Visa have been weak because cash-to-card conversion has historically been the easiest thing for them to do but is now over. Value-added services are instead driving more growth. Agentic AI traffic is about to go parabolic, so can the cards play the role of authentication layer? He thinks so, and they should. Stablecoins and peer-to-peer transactions are not big deals, not major threats.
Visa and MasterCard (MA-N) have been terrific performers over the last few years. There was so much regulation in other parts of financial services, there was no earnings growth, other than a few names. These 2 were getting all of money and valuations kept getting pushed. On earnings valuation, they are in the mid-20s. They’ve actually come down, because they continue to grow and the stocks flattened out a little. When the other parts of financial services, US banks, US brokerage firms start to do better, money will come out of these high flyers. He prefers things like Bank of America (BAC-N), Goldman Sachs (GS-N), Morgan Stanley (MS-N) which are probably going to have similar, if not better earnings growth over the next couple of years.