Visa Inc.VCOMMENTOct 25, 2016Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Sep 25, 2026. Market Open.
You'd have to go back a very long time to find his firm holding MA. Owned V for a long time, mainly on the valuation differential. MA has always been 4-6 multiple points higher. Visa is better value. Likes the space.
V might be stronger on the debit card side, which is growing at a faster rate than the credit side. Likes management. PE in the 20s, a discount to normalized multiples. Consistent, predictable. Earnings continue to do well. Nice hedge to a lot of companies that are in the news.
Visa and Mastercard have been treading water the past year because the market has been fixated on AI, but that money has been rotating out of AI into places like credit cards. The two companies have some of the best business models, big moats and trading at attractive PEs, though neither are at decades-long low PEs. Visa's layoff of 7% of workforce is good for the stock. Probably AI is making Visa more productive.
Mastercard and Visa have been weak because cash-to-card conversion has historically been the easiest thing for them to do but is now over. Value-added services are instead driving more growth. Agentic AI traffic is about to go parabolic, so can the cards play the role of authentication layer? He thinks so, and they should. Stablecoins and peer-to-peer transactions are not big deals, not major threats.
This has done a fantastic job and is a great story on globalization and global spending. Trades at a very rich multiple. The company is subject to some technological disruption. It has the potential to reduce its costs through technology, but it is going to take investments up front to be able to stay on top of that. You have to be concerned that the major merger with Visa Europe, and the European community is being very aggressive in terms of the interchange fees that these card processor companies are able to charge. He is worried that as governments become more populous, Visa has some real vulnerability in terms of fee revenue it is going to be able to earn. With the stock trading at 32X earnings, he would be very cautious.