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Stockchase Insights Adobe Systems ADBE-Q HOLD Sep 13, 2024

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The quarter was good but the outlook was muted. EPS was $4.65, beating estimates of $4.53. Revenue of $5.4B beat estimates by just under 1%. Adobe's guidance for its Digital Media unit's net new annual recurring revenue (ARR) of $550 million was around $11 million below consensus, which is likely due to a strong beat in 3Q, which outperformed Street expectations by $44 million. The 3Q metric was driven by the close of certain transactions that would have otherwise secured in 4Q. There was also a sense a bit of caution in the outlook, given heightened geopolitical uncertainty and lack of clarity on interest rates. The Digital Experience segment is another area where there could be continued pressure until 1H25, as more clarity emerges on enterprise IT budgets. Adjusted operating margin was up only 20 bps to 46.5% -- in line with expectations -- as Adobe ramps up investment in GenStudio and Adobe Express. Not great, but still a great company. HOLD.
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Views it the same way as Intel. He feels the investor's pain, but finally got out of the way. Slow on execution with AI, and hopes this will change. Firefly had pretty good fanfare and brought many software components together. Doesn't think AI will eat their lunch because AI is more about single solutions than multiple solutions. Lots of brand loyalty. 

Will still be around in 3 years, but 10 years could be a different story.

HOLD

He will reserve final judgement until the next earnings report in September. If they show weak results, or good results but the street doesn't care again, then he will sell. But he doubts that. Everyday, we use PDF files. There's competition, but Adobe is doing a good job.

DON'T BUY

He sold it two years ago, because the valuation was expensive and had questions about their AI transition. Also, them not buying Figma was another factor. He still wouldn't buy it. Software companies are being challenged by AI.

DON'T BUY

AI has penetrated what Adobe does and has reduced the spend on Adobe products. It's difficult for them. She eventually sold it.

DON'T BUY

The chart looks terrible. Consumers want the cheapest software, even the apps on smartphones, and this hurts Adobe.

DON'T BUY
ADBE vs. AVGO

Capital allocation framework and organic growth prospects of AVGO are better than ADBE. 

AVGO is in his dividend growers mandate, with very compelling organic growth. Over coming 3 years, earnings expected to grow 20% and the dividend along with them. Software companies are spending all the $$ in the AI race. Who's getting it? The hardware makers, so chip makers are well positioned. Continues to buy.

COMMENT
The impact of AI on software companies?

Honestly, nobody knows how this will play out. But for companies like Adobe, the presence of AI has not hurt their recent quarters.

DON'T BUY

Valuation fairly attractive, low relative to other mega-cap tech names. Chart doesn't speak to a positive buy, lower lows and lower highs. Price is below a falling 200-day MA. Investment community has shown disdain for every announcement on AI.

COMMENT

They report Thursday. Has fallen dramatically out of favour, similar to Salesforce which reported a big earnings surprise, but disappointing guidance. The street feels that software as a service is vulnerable to AI. Adobe has the best product, though. Is it enough to lift the stock?

HOLD
Investor's down 20%.

Earnings are tonight, so who knows what will happen? The narrative is very negative. But it continues to add ~10k subscribers a day to its Photoshop suite. Continues to deliver good, solid topline growth. Trading at half the valuation of 12 months ago, very attractive risk/reward.

Margin of safety is very high with a long-term view. It's investing heavily in its own AI suite of products. Not only Photoshop, but also document cloud business and CRM software.