Market. He is seeing a bit of a pullback in some of the dominant Trump themes, such as the weakness in the Mexican peso, the rise in government bond yields and leadership in the financial sector. Investors should understand that when a regime takes hold, there are invariably a lot of doubters, so you do get these setbacks in any major or dominant trend in the market, but only because sentiment runs faster and hotter than underlying fundamentals do. This waning of enthusiasm is only a corrective counter-Trump phase, and the leadership should reassert itself going forward. The defeat on the Obama care was a setback for the Trump administration and the pushing forward of their agenda, but it’s too simplistic to just write off. They’ve got a long runway in front of them, and is hopeful they will get some part of the tax cut agenda enacted. He continues to like financials, which are well positioned, particularly in the US, for a rising interest rate and rising net interest margin environment. As well, if the government is successful in rolling back some of the regulatory red tape that has encumbered the sector, notably Dodd Frank, that should be a tailwind for them. He’s also constructive on energy, although recognizing there are some challenges in Western Canada.
Market. The US market will go sideways, despite the headwinds of high valuations and the Trump uncertainty. There are as many positives as there are negatives. With Trump’s aggressive plans to cut taxes, repeal Obama care, the immigration policies and the big spending policies, those are all kind of positive, but he has had very little success so far in implementing a lot of those. Also, as valuations are at a historic high and rates are rising, the best we can hope for is a sideways move in the market. There is going to be a lot of money to be made in the market, but the strategy of just buying an index and waiting, is probably past its prime. Stronger global growth will really be needed to ignite energy prices.
Preferred Shares. Historically, investors would buy preferred shares, something like corporate GICs and put them on the shelf. They got paid a dividend income, a little bit better than GICs, of good strong companies. Over time, different types of preferred shares were invented and have become a little more complicated. What was very popular, and still is, was the fixed reset preferred share, which designed to perform well. Every 5 years it gets a new reset coupon, which is determined based on a spread over Government of Canada 5-year bond yield. In 2015, people were generally anticipating interest rates to go higher, so the resets seemed like a great product. However, 2 years ago, the price of oil dropped significantly. This was a concern. The Bank of Canada was committed to stimulating the economy, and they started cutting rates. The structure and the built-in spreads of these fixed resets didn’t really support that environment. With this, your 4.5% return turned into 2.5%. There was tremendous selling pressure. At the end of the day, it was really oversold, and smart money started stepping in, recognizing value.
Issuers have now introduced new products with attractive yields, but with a floor feature. If, what happened back in 2015, happens again, these products are protected. Even though it is a rate reset, if you get inflation, you get the benefit of the new rate. If it starts going lower in a deflationary environment, they guarantee you the minimum yield. It’s a great feature and something that has been very well received.
Using rate reset preferred shares as a strategy for increasing interest rates. Because resets are also perpetual (with a reset every 5 years) isn’t there a risk if the yield curve steepens? Traditionally, if the yield curve steepens, long bonds get creamed, so if you own a perpetual preferred share, and you get a real inflationary environment, you are at risk. The 5-year reset though, really captures the 5-year bond yield, and does so every 5 years. If your yield curve starts steepening significantly, your reset coupon is actually going to become more attractive. It is going to respond to the steepening of the curve.
Questions for a broker on a new preferred share issue? You should start with the issuer. You want it to be a household name that you and your broker are comfortable with. From there, he would shift right over into structure. Does it have the floor feature? How will it perform in a dropping interest rate environment? How will it perform in a rising interest rate environment? Alternatively, you could use a managed solution with a niche fund in the preferred share space giving you a diversified portfolio with a great yield.
A US$ Canadian issued preferred share eligible for the dividend tax credit in order to park some US dollars? There are some, but not many. Enbridge (ENB-T) has 4 US$ Canadian preferred shares. They trade on the TSX, but are in US$s. He has 4 of these in his funds and really likes them. Alta Gas (ALA-T) also has one.
Markets. He believes governments should not be involved and let capitalism play out for Bombardier. There should be policies in place to avoid conflicts of interest. Failing companies should be left to fail. The US tax reform is going to require a border tax. We don’t know what it will look like. This is the beginning of very difficult period. He is betting that Trump will do something wrong. Some of the weakness today is just the Market.
Educational Segment. The French election is coming up at the end of April and is not priced into the markets. There were two elections last year that did not go the way the pollsters predicted. This is a market risk. VT-N dropped as we got into the US election last year. It went 5% below peak. The Brexit decline was similar. If we go to an Anti EU government in France it will be very negative for the markets. ZWE-T is the way to play this. He buys into dips, but is underweight. If it gets back down to $19.40 you should get back into it.
Markets. If the market is doing well, it is a time he is looking to sell and vice versa. It has been a tremendous run since ‘08/’09, but now one has to be more wary. He is looking at getting out of things that reached their targets early. What Trump can do within his agenda is unknown as demonstrated by his healthcare bill. In looking at another NAFTA agreement, we have to just say no a lot while negotiating. He would put money in Canada now rather than the US, although he is not crazy about our debt levels here. He prefers commodities and oil and gas in Canada, rather than financials.
Markets. He thinks we have a little more room on the upside and then that’s it. We are starting to see money flow being flat. This is often a sign where things are looking for an opportunity to sell off. The TSX is continuing to fight with a lid. The S&P looks to have farther to go. He is bullish on oil and energy. He thinks there is a couple of months of strength. The TSX might outperform the S&P short term. He likes metals/materials, but does not like Canadian banks. There is room for a play on US banks, however. In the next couple of months he expects to be taking out his consumer discretionary. Start to take out your high beta stuff and wait for the correction.
Markets. Softness in the commodity prices are responsible for the TSX not performing as well as the S&P. We are seeing a fundamental improvement in corporate profitability in the US. Increasing diesel consumption is a sure sign of an improvement in the economy. You have strength in all kinds of commodity prices. It looks like we will have synchronized global growth which we have not had in a long time. Pulling the healthcare bill last week sent a signal that perhaps Mr. Trump can’t get everything done that he wants. You have to distinguish between a recession and a correction. He sees no sign of a recession. Housing could be an iceberg here in Canada. He does not think there will be a credit or housing event in the next 24 months, however. Housing has propped up the economy.
Gold. Its big rally has faltered lately. His range has been $1100-$1300. With the new administration, he has raised his floor to $1200, because he feels it introduces some element of unknown. Whenever the market is unsure about timing, magnitude and affect, that adds an extra element of risk as to what it really means over the next couple of years.