Meta Platforms IncMETAHOLDAug 29, 2012Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Aug 17, 2026. Market Open.
They just reported a revenue beat, but earnings missed due to a $2.4 billion in legal contingencies. Guidance for this quarter was weak and they narrowed their full-year capex forecast, raising it slightly. Shares are getting killed after hours. The stock is trying his patience. Wants their AI spending to be more creative to monetize Whatsapp
Are concerns about capex spending by Meta and peers. But Meta can increase cash flow because of their consumer base. Can these companies support future capex spending? They would need cash flow support. And within their base business, do they have pricing power, and other businesses that can generate revenue? For Meta: yes to all.
He just bought it as a new buy. For 2 years, there's been criticism of their AI spend, but recently they've gone from blindly spending to a path to revenue though isn't sure if their new Spark 1.1 will be profitable. But they can sell some of their space within their compute, which makes them a competitor to Google and Amazon. He likes how they're branching beyond an ad company.
Trades at 20x PE, but has gone from huge free cash flow to low. But they have $200 billion revenue from their social media business, which is growing at 28%. It will probably return to free cash flow positive. The CEO will prove that he's focused on efficiency. It's the only Mag 7 stock she will buy.
Investors are concerned about how much $$ it's spending -- will it pay off in the long term? We'll see. Compared to AMZN and GOOG, it's not really in the cloud; recent announcement of neocloud still leaves them behind the 8-ball.
Moving down for past year, 200-day MA flat to slightly trending lower. Not expensive, under 1x PEG. Earnings growth of 15%, 20x forward PE.
Remember, it took Amazon, Google and Microsoft a decade to build their cloud businesses, so this will not happen overnight for Meta, if it happens. It would diversify their companies, so that's good, instead of 100% ads. She's tired of them spending and not delivering he results. So many question marks about how they will grow. She is looking elsewhere. They lost $8 billion on Reality Labs. A headache.
Trades at only 17x PE, as the street's been concerned that all its capex is not being utilized properly. Starting to sell some excess capacity in the neocloud. Needs to improve ROIC, and stop spending $$ on tangential projects. People are cautious. Monetization is seeing some traction. Likes it at these levels.
Down 15% this year though the QQQ is up 15% because the chip stocks have become a bigger weighting. Meta is not executing and pivoting on a daily basis. Meta is burning money, figuring out what to do, but should focus on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp and their glasses. Those areas are doing great.
“Bought at $21.60. Should I keep holding?” Really tough question as there is a big divergence of opinion. Stock collapsed quite a bit and is back in this pricing range/valuation range that most of the other Internet companies are exposed to, which means they are still relatively expensive. On the other hand it has an incredible franchise and we haven’t seen the potential of that franchise. Headwinds they face right now as a stock include “can they execute on mobility” and ”can they move beyond just display and bring up their Rpoos and cost per M clicks”. Trends don’t look good right now but if they turn, the stock could easily double over the next 5 years. Almost 1.3 billion shares coming out of lockup in November and another 400 million for sale in October. That is a lot of pressure on the stock. A lot of potential in the model.