Lloyds TSB Group PLCLYGCOMMENTJan 27, 2017Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Jun 09, 2026. Market Open.
He sold in 2013/14 because cross selling did not work. They were going to increase returns to shareholders and that did not materialize. As a British bank they are in a better position than a European bank. But he does not want to be a British bank because the American markets have access to your capital. He thinks the outperformance of non-Canadian banks is probably over.
He sold in 2014-5. The bank was working off the bad loan book and releasing capital, and selling off bad loans. They hoping to return their book of business back to growth. Because they'd underwritten most UK mortgages, they hopes that by cross-selling they could grow their share. That didn't work, so he exited.
He sold his Lloyd’s shares several years ago. He invested with the expectation of some catalysts: that they would expand their business by increasing the number of types of services they provided to each customer and that they would significantly increase their dividend. Neither increased to the extent that he had planned for and he doesn’t see significant catalysts for growth now. (Analysts’ price target is 76p compared to a current stock price of 67 pence).
Lloyds (LLOY-LN) and/or Barclays (BCS-N)? Some European banks will generally follow US banks up a couple of years later. When the US went into Armageddon, they lowered rates and exported capital, and that caused rates globally to go down. The Europeans with the UK raised rates within a year. So he thinks this will be the same, but if the US starts to raise rates aggressively, that could speed up the process where higher interest rates in Europe make sense. This bank just purchased the credit card business from NBNA, and that is going to be quite good for the stock. In a BREXIT context, this is effectively a domestic bank. If the returns are less because of lower currency, you might have some challenges. In both cases, you want to be a little careful. He would consider looking at Banco Santander (SAN-N), which survived relatively well during the crisis.