Alibaba Group HoldingBABACOMMENTSep 22, 2017Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Jul 24, 2026. Market Open.
Looks great on the numbers -- growth rate, EPS, etc. Trouble is you don't know what's going to happen with the Chinese government. This is a known hazard. Even when you do everything right with your portfolio, you'll still be hit by the unexpected. As an investor, you need open markets and the rule of law.
E-commerce and cloud computing (the most nascent piece). E-commerce is under a lot of strain. AI large-language models are compelling in Chinese market, but that entire market is very competitive and ripe for disruptors. A trading stock over the next 2-3 years. Not a buy-and-hold. Tactically a buy today, but be very careful.
Like Amazon, they dominate key secular growth areas in e-commerce, are in cloud computer though trade at only one third of Amazon's PE. Is a modest grower, but has a huge margin of safety. There's so much pessimism about tariffs now. Wait and see, but would be an opportunity if the tariffs are more bark than bite.
Very different from Amazon (AMZN-Q). An e-commerce site, but they set up platforms for companies. Unlike Amazon, they don’t control the seller and they don’t compete with them. 90% of revenue comes from China. They also have a Cloud business that they want to grow and they have Alipay. They need to expand internationally, but can they compete on an international basis. Also, it is a very difficult thing for them to be in the Cloud business, because they are a Chinese company and people get very wary of the security. Thinks they will spin off the Alipay business. Feels Amazon has a much better business.