There has been concern over paying nursing homes to not send patients to hospitals. He is not sure if this true but it raises caution. There is also concern over the U.S. trying to not pay claims. The U.S. administration is going after costs in health care and profits in PDM. There is likely more bad news coming out. After three years it should probably be OK.
Now is probably the time to buy if you want to take a position. At $30 it is reasonably cheap. He likes the dividend cut which gives it financial flexibility and the opportunity to pay down debt. The dividend is still quite high at 6% and is stable. Market fears are somewhat overblown. The three year view should be better. He owns Rogers.
They have their eye on it and you could buy with a very long term time horizon. However he would wait for a pullback. It has several different businesses, some with very high margins and some with low margins. It is more in the fulfillment business than product selling business by charging a fee for sellers. It shouldn't be hit by tariffs but sellers might. It is not cheap but has an excellent management team along with growth and innovation.
He still likes it and would buy more. High immigration is a tailwind since there are more customers for telecom. Cost cutting is going on and new technology is being implemented. There is lots of free cash flow and along with lower interest rates this will help to pay down debt. It has a decent and sustainable dividend.
He hopes their troubles are behind them but as an equity investor is not sure if he sees the light at the end of the tunnel yet. There are only three companies in the world that make planes and global travel is growing. It has some logistics issues and has received some significant slaps on the wrist by the transportation board. There is a lot of debt but the order book is pretty filled up. He thinks there has been some change in management.
It is a storied asset manger and owns many baby Brookfields. He really likes the management and company but the stock is expensive. As a value investor he wants a decent sized correction before buying. He has concerns re the private equity space, in particular defaults or lower valuations, which would affect asset management fees.
He would not buy as a value investor since the valuation is reasonably full, unless AI gives them a big edge. It has executed very well and is a cash flow machine. The main source of income is advertising and ad spending tends to go down in an economic slowdown.