A Comment -- General Comments From an Expert (A Commentary)

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Owns Government bonds. 20-25 years at 4%-4.5%. This would be subject to more volatility. The further you go out, the more volatility there is. However, the Government of Canada is a good solid credit. Surprised at the high interest rate, but this was perhaps purchased 30 years ago. A 10 year bond today would be around 2%.

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T-bills, one year, 10 year, etc. are always quoted at current yield. What are the coupon rates and are they always set at the same rate? Coupon rates are not always set at the same rate. Usually bond managers are looking at yield to maturity. Each quarter, the Bank of Canada will issue new bonds, usually a 2, 5, 10 and 30 year bonds, or they may add to existing issues. There are approximately 50 existing issues being traded right now, and each day they get shorter and shorter. The 10 year bond you got last year is now a 9 year bond. As it comes down the yield curve, the coupon stays fixed. In order to make up for that yield differential, the price goes up. Sometimes they do quote current yield, which is basically just that coupon over the current price. This is not very accurate, so bond managers use a calculation called yield to maturity. This is the true yield that you should be using.

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Closed End Bond Funds. What are the risks in holding this fund until it winds up? You don’t see too many of these around, because there are usually pretty hefty fees on them, which makes it pretty tough to make any money.

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Building a 10 year ladder. With most bonds selling at a premium, won’t this result in capital losses? A ladder is a passive strategy and not a bad way to go. All the bonds now have a premium. They were issued with a fixed coupon, rates have come down and the price of the bond is at a premium. As a bond manager, he looks at “yield to maturity” and takes a little bit off the coupon that you would be getting and this does shrink the yield. He would do it with corporate bonds rather than government, or perhaps mixed, when they are at a premium. A better way to do it would be through a fund or an ETF, instead of doing a ladder.

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Convertible Bond Fund? Convertible bonds are kind of a mysterious animal, especially in Canada. Looks like a bond in every way, but at some point there is a conversion feature. Usually, as the underlying stock starts taking off, you can convert to the stock. Usually it is weaker companies, weaker credits that issue these. A good way to play it would be through the iShares Convertible Bond Index ETF (CVD-T).

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Markets. It has been a very strong recovery over the last year. He finds that a couple of the names that are large caps are entering into expensive territory, but the whole middle section is very attractive, especially from a yield perspective. Picking the right name with a higher yield is okay if you are careful. He is still seeing some very attractive values. It’s a good time to be in the space. In Canada we are not seeing the participation in the REIT space that would be expected, which is a good thing if you are buying.

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Interest rates. They will have to go up over time. So he is not that concerned. REITs will not continue to grow double digits year after year. He does not see those sharp fears from a while back.

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How to select REITs? Watch the debt to enterprise value, or debt to total assets. Look at FFO. 12-15 range is fair. Growth is how they are growing FFO over time.

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Markets. The economy in the US is still chugging along. It is early in their recovery. Some months, jobs are very encouraging and other months they are not, so don’t make a judgment on one economic number. The 2 year bond yield in the US is starting to edge up, as is the 10 year, which is encouraging to him. Thinks the Fed will move interest rates in the next 6 months. He has 55% of portfolio out of North America. That’s where bargains are. He is looking in Northern Europe and emerging markets. It could take a year or two to pan out for him. Toronto has been one of the best markets this year, but he is worried about oil prices. If the US dollar continues to be strong that does not bode well for commodities and so for Canada.

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Financials and how much to allocate. A lot of investors allocate a lot to financials due to weighting in the index. He does not do that. He only owns one Canadian bank (BNS-T). He has 3 US financials.

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Markets. The stimulus announcement today was a real surprise. It’s not a huge program, though. There are at least two countries in Europe with bonds having negative yields. You are going to see rate hikes happening over the next 6 to 12 months. This is priced into the market. The long bonds have been outperforming.

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ETF? A lot of the European rally has finished. You have to worry about the Euro’s value as it can wipe out your returns. You need currency hedging, but he is not aware of a European Bond ETF that is currency hedged.

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Preferred Shares or Bonds? Prefers preferred shares. Five year rate reset are best.

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Preferred perpetuals. Fixed dividend rate that never matures, but company can call it. There are very wide credit spreads.

PAST TOP PICK

Ville de Quebec. 2.3% bond due Dec 4/18. (Top Pick Nov 22/13, Up 3.5%) It was a short term play.

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