Visa Inc.VCOMMENTJan 30, 2018Stock price when the opinion was issued
As of Aug 14, 2026. Market Open.
Visa and Mastercard have been treading water the past year because the market has been fixated on AI, but that money has been rotating out of AI into places like credit cards. The two companies have some of the best business models, big moats and trading at attractive PEs, though neither are at decades-long low PEs. Visa's layoff of 7% of workforce is good for the stock. Probably AI is making Visa more productive.
Mastercard and Visa have been weak because cash-to-card conversion has historically been the easiest thing for them to do but is now over. Value-added services are instead driving more growth. Agentic AI traffic is about to go parabolic, so can the cards play the role of authentication layer? He thinks so, and they should. Stablecoins and peer-to-peer transactions are not big deals, not major threats.
Both are phenomenal businesses. Comparable on valuation and share price performance. If you own one, don't switch.
His clients own Visa, and have for a very long time. Makes the most sense for him as more payments become digitized and V captures more market share. It's the largest payment network, so its profitability is a bit higher on margins. Bit north of 20x PE, FCF yield north of 4%. Attractive valuation for an essential business.
An unassailable fortress for a long time. Fintech and card companies have been weak, with concerns about disruptive digital payment systems. Near-term uncertainty about long-term profitability.
Pretty dominant position. Still trading above long-term moving average. Lagging in this market. Not well inflation-protected. Put your focus elsewhere.
He's out. Momentum has broken. Price is now below 200-day MA, and that's rolling over. Secular growth drivers are still there, for about 14% earnings growth at 23x PE. But it's more about valuation right now. If you think of it as technology, investors are seeing a lot more exciting names out there.
When technicals improve, he'd look at it again.
Having taken most of my money out, how do I know when to sell my last bit, or do I keep hanging on forever as I’m just playing with the house money? This is really the core of investment management. It's a question every investor and investment manager has to understand, come to terms with, and create a disciplined approach to the answer. You have to have a rule-based investment philosophy to allow long-term success. It's not "house money", it's your money. You should think of your profits, not in terms of the relationship with a cost of your investment, but just in absolute terms. It's your money. It doesn't have any less value because you've earned it in the market. Also you shouldn't just be holding on because it is "winning". You have to always be looking at the company in terms of how is it trading today relative to its past, and what might happen in the future. You have to judge a company every day, asking yourself if it is something you would buy today.