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Holding company; not strictly speaking a lifeco, though a lot of its NAV is tied up in GWO. Major investor in Wealthsimple. Multiple lines of business make it less volatile than an insurance company. Meanders along. Yield is north of 5%, growing at single digits.
Own and sleep well at night. No qualms. Capital appreciation plus dividend should throw off high single-digit or low-double returns.
He's a real chicken, and looking for stocks that won't hurt too much if tariffs go the wrong way. Life insurance is fairly insulated. Won out as his pick compared to MFC. Cheap at 8.6x 2025, growing 6-7%. Market thinks growth will be 12% next year. A win-by-not-losing choice. Yield is 5.5%.
Owns Mackenzie Investors Group, GWO. Investments in names like Wealthsimple and asset management. Alternative lending business. Many different ways to surface value.
He's been buying. Great valuation, holding-company discount, decent growth rate of 6-8%. Nice dividend with a good payout ratio. Technically over its skis, but likes the name long term. Better entry at $44-45.
Only problem is that when bull markets start to give way to bear markets, people look for areas immune from tariffs. If the economy rights itself, and you see $$ going into names like tech again, this type of name will fall off. If we go into a real downturn, money will leave the market and this name will go lower along with everything else.
The theme for today is "What wins Stanley Cups is defense." Very defensive name. Rare combination of dividend that grows every year by ~7%, value, resilience. Trades at discount of 23% to NAV; he expects this to narrow to 10-15% as the company scales more into alternative assets.
Tepid sentiment on GWO has provided an opportunity to buy; now has upwards earnings momentum. Trades at 9x PE, growing at 14.6%. May be able to get it slightly cheaper. Yield is 4.80%.
With rates going down, you could consider a fixed-rate preferred. He's been buying POW.PR.D, yielding about 6.1%. Beauty of it is that it doesn't reset, it's perpetual. So if the BOC moves rates lower, these preferred shares won't reset to a lower level. Gets more valuable as the BOC lowers interest rates.