Kroger Co.

Lots of grocery stores have done well. Prefers Costco. If you hold KR, it will continue to benefit, but Costco is a one-stop-shop. Consumers don't want to traipse around to different stores.

Grocers are tough, operating on skinny margins. You have big competition. WMT-N and AMZN-Q are big into grocery. He owns WMT-N.

A serial dividend grower? Traditional grocery stores are threatened by Amazon and hard discounters (in the U.S.). The latter dominate Europe and are a rising threat in North America. He prefers Costco who have the lowest prices anywhere; they also have the best demographics of anyone selling groceries, the wealthy, which makes Costco very defensive/safe.

PE only at 10 times? He would buy Amazon instead -- they will steal market share from them. You could by KR-N and still do well, but there needs to be more upward momentum to excite him.

(A Top Pick November 13, 2017. Up 34%). He bought this stock expecting inflationary food prices to take it up, then tripled his position when Amazon caused a panic by buying Whole Foods. He sold off the investment and has bought other consumer stocks with the proceeds.

This was suffering with its entire industry a few years ago but has figured out how to compete and is now doing extremely well. It has strong earnings. He expects acquisitions to be a bolt-on variety (e.g. niches). Grocery is a tough space because of entrenched competition from Amazon, CostCo and Walmart. He is not buying grocery stocks because of the difficulty of this space, but he is very impressed with the management of Kroger and their success in this space.

This had a couple of issues. First there was food deflation, which tends to cause excess competition in the grocery sector. And then there was the Amazon purchase of Whole Foods. That took the company down from $30 to $20. This is selling at about 10X earnings, compared to Loblaw’s (L-T) selling at 17-18 times. Kroger has a little more debt, but own half their stores. The largest retailer in the US. Dividend yield of 2.3%. (Analysts’ price target is $23.)

You have stocks that screen really well on a lot of metrics, and this company is one of them. It generates cash flow. The industry has been beaten up. There are some valid reasons for that, with a lot of big players coming into the grocery space, including Amazon (AMZN-Q) which has just annihilated businesses. What makes it challenging, is that they are dealing with consumers. She doesn’t like the consumer space, because there is no loyalty, and would rather be elsewhere.

She does not follow it closely. Food retaining is quite competitive. She does not like the space in the US. She only owns L-T in Canada and they also have shoppers which she likes. She would not add US retailers to the US portfolios.

The grocery space has been really, really tough. Underperformance relative to the market really shows that. There has been a lot of competition coming in such as Wal-Mart (WMT-N) and Costco (COST-Q). Now you are getting potential online entrants. If Amazon (AMZN-Q) decides to get into an industry, completely decimate margins, and operate at what seems like a loss in order to take share, it is really tough for incumbent competitors. She would be on the sidelines with this.

(Top Pick Jun 21’16, Up 11.95%) This is his sore one. He is hanging in, though. It is because of fears of food deflation. He sees this as a temporary blip. They have a pretty good brand of organics. They have this segment of food and it is not perceived as just for the elite. They have a great deal of market share.

He has a small position because it is one of the top market share grocers in the US. They have their organic line, private label, as a catalyst for growth. This could help propel margin expansion. Find it in the low $30s or below. There may be some fund flows out of this stock in some funds and this would create an opportunity.