Energy. For every winner from oil, there is a loser, in Canada particularly. The redistributive effect of low gasoline prices, particularly for the working poor in the US, is bigger than any policy that the Obama administration has managed to pass in 6 years. In other words, this is putting more spendable cash in the pockets of poor to middle income families in the US, which is going to be used for consumer spending, and is not going to end up in Saudi Arabia or Venezuela or Iran. This is highly positive.
Insurance companies or banks? Insurance companies have traditionally looked for long assets because they have long risks. Right now long bonds are a particularly unrewarding asset class and insurance companies have to find something other to do. This means they are taking more risks. Although he is starting to buy some insurance companies, they are not a substitute for the banks. They don’t have the earnings power or the multiple sources of income that the banks have.
Preferred shares or bonds? 3 good things about preferred shares and 1 bad thing. 1.) They get the dividend tax credit, so you will pay a lower rate of tax than you’d pay on interest from bonds. 2.) The good quality preferred shares by banks or utility companies are currently paying around 3.5%-3.75% for a 5 year maturity, compared to bonds paying about 2.25%. 3.) Since 2009, virtually every preferred share issued in Canada, has been a rate reset preferred share, that will have a change in the dividend rate at the end of the first 5 years, based on an increment of whatever the Canada 5 year bond is paying at that time. The worst thing that can happen is that you have to own it for 5 years, at what might become a lower than market rate in year 3 or year 4. The bad thing about preferred shares is that they are quite illiquid. He prefers the Armageddon Prefs issued by the banks.
Which U.S. listed bank would you prefer? He is concerned about buying European banks for 2 reasons. First of all is currency risks. The euro could easily fall further against the US dollar. Also, they have a lot of suspect sovereign and bank paper from southern Europe that is underperforming. Big US banks are in a good environment right now. He doesn’t own Citibank (C-N) or Bank of America (BAC-N), but thinks they are going to do pretty well. The 2 big investment banks, Goldman Sachs (GS-N) and J.P. Morgan (JPM-N) are also doing well. For a pure commercial bank, Wells Fargo (WFC-N) is probably the class of the field. If he were going to buy another bank, it would probably be Wells Fargo.
Markets. He is not resource heavy and on purpose. You don’t control the price of your product in those businesses. Prefers to keep volatility of portfolios low. He owns some oil-related stocks. He has been worried about a global economic slowdown for many years, but did not see the oil glut coming. Oil is the ultimate self-correcting commodity. Spigots get turned off and have to be turned on very quickly. This is temporary situation and will come roaring back. It will take some time to stabilize over the next 6 months to a year. Investors need to take extra risks. There are some bargains. You have to look at companies with temporary problems. Dividends are very important as we will stay in a low interest rate environment.
Markets. The magnitude of the change in oil is not the big issue. The issue is the speed at which it happened. It is not difficult just for investors, but also for the big companies with their capital budgets, currency forecasts. It has all changed so quickly and so fast that it causes a lot of dislocation and a lot of anxiety. As a result you get a lot of volatility in the market. We don’t know exactly how this is all going to unravel. Everybody’s exposure to Russia is much less than it was in 1998. However, ramifications of what happens in Russia can spill over into the European banks, and you never know what connections that has to Brazilian enterprise, whether or not a company has to make a margin call and do it from a healthy enterprise in Brazil to a very unhealthy enterprise in Russia. This is a very scary time for investors and they have to be looking at their portfolios and figuring out how to prepare for it. He understands that US banks’ exposure to Russia is less than a half a percent. We will probably wake up to something Putin has announced in the middle of the night and it will be something pretty dramatic. Investors need to build some themes and the need to take a look at them. He looked back and figured that China was not a big capital building economy anymore, it was turning into a consumer driven and export driven economy. He then figured that it did not look all that promising for oil, iron ore, etc. Because of that, whenever he was constructing a portfolio, he was keeping it a little bit lighter on commodities and cyclicals, especially in Canada.
Banks. Canadian banks have pulled back recently because earnings were a little less than exciting. As a Canadian investor, you have to be really leery of somebody on television telling you to get rid of your Canadian banks. Royal (RY-T), Toronto Dominion (TD-T) and Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS-T) are really good core holdings. If interest rates go up, although he doesn’t think they’re going to go up a lot, this would be very good for Canadian banks. However, Canadian banks have a lot more exposure to the domestic Canadian economy. CIBC (CM-T) is the most exposed and TD and Scotia would be the least exposed. US banks, in relation to Canadian banks are going to look more attractive right now. It doesn’t matter what you do, money will probably leave Canadian banks, because a lot of US investors have been hiding in Canadian banks, and they are probably going to flow out into some of the US names.
Canadian-based ETF’s that follow the US S&P 500? Believes the S&P 500 will outperform the TSX, and has been his view for some time. As investors, we are really fortunate with the competition that has occurred in the space. You have to decide whether you want to be exposed in Cdn$’s or US$’s. He would argue that you should split your money into hedged and unhedged. Believes the Vanguard S&P 500 might be the cheapest.
Markets. You can look at oil and be scared or you can see a lot of opportunity. Oil prices could stay here for the next 6 months, but fundamentally, half or more of the fracking in the US makes no money. The current price is already priced into oil stocks. Look for when it is going to recover. He would be surprised if the Fed had any material change to the rates this week. The energy sector is a growth sector in the US. Most jobs over the last 6 months are directly or indirectly related to fracking.
Educational Segment. Forecasting Next Year. What he thinks today could change a month from now. Forecasting two years out is nice to have but… In 2015 here is what might happen: Greece: We could be positioned for another exit. We are starting to take a turn. It is breaking down. An election process over the next three weeks may not re-elect, and it could be an anti Euro party that gets in. That is the only way to turn things around there. It would be the first country to leave the Euro. Russia and part of South America: South America is stressed like Russia because of oil being the major export for their economy. Thinks Venezuela could re-value their currency and shock the world. Credit market spreads: are widening and we need to be on the lookout for that. China: next year they could miss their 7% growth projection. China is a big risk for next year that we need to think about. What if the FED decides to tighten next year: Look at Euro futures. By September and December next year, the probably of 1/2-3/4ths of a percent rate hike are already priced in. If oil prices stabilize, the Canadian market might start to turn around. Look at French and German bond yields: The best performing asset this year was a US long bond. We need to watch Euro bond yields and especially French. When we see an extended decline in oil like this, the recovery tends to be about 15 to 25%. We are likely to see a bottom in the next few months,. Earning expectations need to come down. Maybe markets will be just okay next year. Will talk more about these things in January.
Markets. Guest reviewed The 10 Market Rules to Remember from Bob Ferrell:
1. Markets tend to return to the mean over time. Look at the insanity right now. It always becomes sane again. The price of oil will not go down forever.
2. Excesses in one direction lead to opposite excesses in the other direction. Greed turns into fear. Oil has probably overshot in its correction. Investors must be patient.
3. There is no era, so excesses are never prominent. We all think we are smarter than the market. But the market has a mind of its own. We will never understand it.
4. Exponential rapidly rising or falling markets usually go further than you think, but never go sideways. The market will come back to the 200 day moving average.
5. The public buys the most at the top and the least at the bottom. He does not believe in selling oil stocks right here. If we learn nothing else today, independent thinking will always outperform the herd mentality.
6. Fear and greed are stronger than long term resolve. We need to have a plan. Somehow we need to put fear and greed on the back burner and focus on the situation at hand.
7. Markets are strongest when they are broad and weakest when they narrow to a few blue chip names. Try to understand where the market as a whole is right now and where a particular stock fits in. 60% of the move of a security is based on the move of the market as a whole.
8. Bear markets have three stages: Sharp Downturn, Reflexive Rebound, and a Drawn Out Fundamental Downturn. If we are going into a bear market in oil, you will still see a rebound here. But this is how bear markets get started. He doesn’t believe we are going into a bear market for oil, however.
9. When all the experts and forecasters agree, then something else will happen. Interest rates were supposed to go up this year, but they fell.
10. Bull markets are more fun than bear markets unless you are short.
Markets. The positive showing today was a combination of things. Oil seems to have found a floor, at least for one day. The federal reserve is clearly not in any hurry to raise interest rates. The economic indicators that the Fed is looking at certainly shows there is no inflation. Headline inflation came down sharply today, by 0.3%. Even the core inflation, which strips out energy and food, was very, very reserved, so there is no reason at all to think that the Fed is going to lift interest rates, even in April. In the meantime, the US economy is picking up steam. He has been looking at things to buy, but it has been so volatile lately, he has been sitting on the sidelines and watching. By and large, every stock that he buys, pays a dividend.