Preferred share market has been under a lot of pressure, very volatile. Tends to trade with the broad markets. When there's tension in the broad markets, the reaction of preferred shares is heavier because it's a thin market. Retail investors unloading at tax-loss selling season can drive real price dysfunction in that market, which is unfortunate.
The market's only going to get smaller, as a number of the big banks have redeemed their preferreds and are shifting over to hybrids and other methods of funding. You can get a fixed rate or a floating rate (rate reset) type. He likes rate resets when rates are going higher, as the preferred shares will reset to a spread above the BOC rate.
From this level, we could see a little bit of capital appreciation. It really depends on the type you have, and you have to really be aware of the different features of each.
Bit more volatile than the rest of the group. Quite good dividend yield of 6.5%, raised it 3% last quarter, doesn't see it being cut. Larger international segment, which can create volatility, especially in earnings. Big change in leadership. Worried about its losing senior management. Not sure of strategic direction. Reasonable valuation, below peers.
He'd say we're going to get a re-steepening. His feeling is that the long end of the yield curve is actually going to shift higher, flattening out on the short side. That's where your risk is buying long bonds. Maybe not so much on the GOC or provincial side, but on the corporate side.
Corporate side you get the impact potentially of re-steepening, which increases rates but decreases price. You could also get the impact of spreads widening.
His philosophy has been to stay short-duration bonds, of 1-3 years, and to wait out those maturities. On some corporates you can lock in 6.5%, government's are closer to low 5's. It's a reasonable place to hide out. If we see a recession, we could see a re-steepening at that point.
Once he realized interest rates weren't going to stay at zero, he scaled out of real estate from 22% down to 5%. He held onto industrials, but sold this one. Really likes the company, but is waiting until interest rates tick down again. Very interest-sensitive investments.
He scaled back on a lot of renewables. A great long-term investment theme, but they're interest sensitive and also cost sensitive. Lay out huge amounts of capital for development projects. With labour and material costs going up, hard to maintain level of investment returns they're used to. Dividend not at risk. It's about rising rates and capturing that investment return.
He scaled back on a lot of renewables. A great long-term investment theme, but interest sensitive and also cost sensitive. Laying out huge amounts of capital for development projects. With labour and material costs going up, hard to maintain level of investment returns they're used to. It's about rising rates and capturing that investment return. He owned it until recently.
Trades at almost 140x earnings. On a multiple of revenue, it's trading at 10x. Hard to buy on any fundamental basis, a stock you buy on momentum. Fascinated by the business model. Cult following has driven the high valuation. Doesn't fit with his investment mandate. About 1/3 of the TSX returns YTD are SHOP alone. Volatile.
Will continue to do well. Growing really fast. Hit an EPS growth target of 15% every year for the last decade. Really likes the story.